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Post by Chigoe on Feb 16, 2007 10:35:58 GMT -5
Since Rick's pulling out originals. I thought I'd post this. It was found in the basement of an old Church in Konnorock, Va. located on a popular trout stream. It's not ancient but it is original. Notice the knot detail.
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Post by jwnagy on Feb 16, 2007 10:59:56 GMT -5
Looks like a projectile used for fishing.
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Post by lee on Feb 16, 2007 12:25:53 GMT -5
Mark:
Have you tried to have the arrow dated? That is a great piece. I have never seen, nor heard of, anything like it. Say you found it in an old church. Where in the church did you find it? Why would it have been there of all places?
Lee
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Post by stevebarr on Feb 16, 2007 15:20:55 GMT -5
Hmmmmm.....breaking and entering....theft of property.....Mark, old buddy....you could be in a heck of a lot of trouble. I'll just have to break down and do the right thing here......I'm heading to Georgia to confiscate that thing. I'll keep it in my cabin for you. Anything to help out a friend! That's just the kind of guy I am.....
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Post by Chigoe on Feb 16, 2007 16:18:33 GMT -5
OK Y'all, It was obtained legally. The old church later became a boarding school then was abandoned. My sister in law was renovating the old place when she found it. The owner said she could have it and she then gave it to me. The place was on a trout stream so I assume it was used for trout fishing. ;D No Lee I've never had it dated. Probably from colonial times though. 1600-1700. Mark, Sr.
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Post by stevebarr on Feb 16, 2007 21:09:50 GMT -5
RATS! Does that mean you don't want me to "keep it safe" at my place?
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Post by stevebarr on Feb 16, 2007 22:22:15 GMT -5
Chigoe - That photo you posted of the arrow you have inspired me to go out and try to collect some of my own. I went to a local tribal council and asked if they had any to spare. Unfortunately, they weren't too receptive to the idea, and asked me to leave. On the way out, I met the chief's daughter. She was really cute. So, I asked her out on a date. Well….to make a long story short….I didn't get the date….but all of a sudden the entire tribe decided to share their arrowhead collection with me! Here's what I came home with…… I'm hoping to go back next week and get some more! Maybe John D will go with me.....
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Post by geodepat on Feb 16, 2007 22:45:22 GMT -5
::)At least you were'nt wearing your new hat.
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Post by Chigoe on Feb 17, 2007 10:56:22 GMT -5
Yes Steve, my white brother, I heard about this already. My uncle Chief Crazy Owl sent word of a great white rock hunter seeking to acquire artifacts to understand the ancient arrow lacing techniques of our people. It is told that once you gazed upon the beauty of my cousin LeeRoyAnne Rainbow chokesonsticks the great white hunter was hopelessly spell bound and had to be forced from my uncle's camp. They eagerly await your return. John D however is already well known and respected in my tribe. His recipe for charcoal filtered fire water is still used by several nations and his elegant charm has gained him access to many sweats given by the widows of our people. When I was a just a wee child I remember sneaking to see the great event when John D was gifted his mighty symbol of fertility made of granite that he lets me proudly display for him in his honor. ;D
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Post by stevebarr on Feb 17, 2007 12:55:46 GMT -5
So, Chigoe my friend....it is YOU who has John D's shin bone! No wonder he has to use his magic rake to walk up and down hills now. Kindly give it back the next time you see him.
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Post by sapphiregirl on Feb 17, 2007 19:39:48 GMT -5
There is a guy in Amelia that has been looking for an artifact like that. I suppose the old church had to have some form of security. That is how we Indians are, maybe someone was not putting anything in the till. Cute trick Steve and well we have some arrowheads in our collection over in Blackstone.
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Post by JohnD on Feb 17, 2007 20:14:49 GMT -5
I was very fortunate to be adopted by a Sioux family when I lived in South Dakota and am familiar with many of the traditions of their religion. Was also fortunate to be friendly with a young lady who was Miss America of the Indian Nations. In 1950 we had a very cold, snowy winter which was a disaster for some who still were living in teepees. Steve, that Chief's daughter that you were interested in might have been the daughter of the Miss America I knew - no wonder they treated you that way.
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Post by DigDug on Apr 8, 2007 13:47:33 GMT -5
That arrow/spear is very nice indeed!
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